Mentally I am out. I am waiting for the shoe to drop so that I can leave without it affecting my family. That won't be too far off based on all the foolishness that is touted as truth. Sooner or later, they will state something or demand something that will be so inconceivable to the average JW with half a brain that will allow me to move on without recourse.
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What would it take to get you outa there?
by sparrowdown ini have a question for any still going to meetings but no longer a believer.. is there any situation or announcement that would cause you to.
draw your line in the sand and walk away?.
if so, what would be your "last straw" moment?.
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When did you start getting ANGRY?
by Separation of Powers inwhen i started the fade....i recognize that i was upset, mainly because of the desillusionment.
but, over the course of the past several months, i am noticing an increasing anger toward all thing org.
it can only be described as indignation, not simply upset.
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@ Muddy Waters
I can really sympathize with your comment regarding your Aunt. I, too, have had family that I have marginalized due to my affiliation with the ORG only to see them now and how many of them still regard me as family. Your Aunt loved you as FAMILY. That is why she asked to see you. My Aunt did the same before she passed, she just wanted to see me cause she loved me for me, and must have realized that I was just really screwed up with the ORG crap. I am glad you got to see her before she passed. Don't be too hard on yourself, I am sure she saw through all that ORG malarkey to the person you are within.
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Why the WTBTS is liable for Sex Abuse Cases
by Coded Logic inthe problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.
the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.
and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.
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The Paedophile issue is my single biggest gripe and has been since long before I faded. I heard something the other day that really solidified the issue for me. Penn State had their whole issue with paedophile problem, one commentator condemn Penn State for not addressing the problem even though they knew it existed. He said one of the most profound things I have ever heard and it relates directly to the ORG's mentality. He said, "Penn State was more concerned about the BRAND Penn State then the innocent victim."
Penn State has always been considered an illustrious university with an illustrious sports program. When those things become more important than the victim, you have a serious problem with your moral compass. Well, what about the ORG? What's wrong with THAT moral compass?
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I was a poll worker
by Hortensia ini worked the election yesterday, here in california, poll worker, from 6 a.m. to 10:30 p.m. it was fun and interesting, went pretty smoothly, nice day.
it was very depressing to come home, look at the news, and find that the republicans now control the senate.. .
do you think canada would take me?
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Wow!
Oh, sorry, I thought you said pole dancer!
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How many lawsuits can the WTBTS absorb?
by Coded Logic init seems like the society has been desperately seeking ways to cut costs and boost reviniew (jw.org, kingdom hall programs, etc) over the past four or five years.
is this because donations are actually down?
or have they been preparing themselves for these lawsuits?
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as many as the ATM machines at the assemblies can spew out
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The Day Armageddon Came
by Londo111 inmy grandfather only had a third grade education and knew little about the bible when jws called on him.
he was a different breed of jw than those of modern times.
he truly cared about people and would give them the shirt off his back.
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Its a shame that he was plagued with so much mental anguish in the end.....My heart goes out to you...Thank you for remembering the man he was, he deserves that.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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@Sir82
Good for the Spanish!!! They always seemed to be left out like the last kid to get picked for the kickball team.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Good call Londo....HIL ARIOUS
As for content, zone visits are typically a hype session for the particular country that they are referencing. In this instance, I believe its only the English speaking congregations of the US and its territories. That would mean that it will probably simply speak of the PROGRESS that the area has experienced similar to the Yearbook highlights of a certain land. Because it deals mainly with the preaching work, it may address changes in dealing with the inactive, irregular or manner in which the preaching work is effected. I agree with many here that there will DEFINITELY be some comment about contributions and "blessings" but do not expect any HUGE doctrinal changes......
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New JW assembly/meeting that has prerecorded message? Lasts half a day
by HillCountry insorry about the confused nature of the topic but my mom (who still goes to the kh meetings) said that there will be an "assembly" on sunday where there will be a prerecorded message or talk of some sort and that it will only be half a day and won't need to bring lunch.
anyone else have heard of these or gone to one?.
i know they are changing a lot of things.
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Yep, its the Zone visit for the US English....or is it the Regional visit? Anyway, live action on Saturday November 8 at 3:00pm eastern...Recorded and edited version on Sunday November 9 and because it is a recording, apparently depends on preference of elders as to the time....
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Name the GOOD things and NICE things about Jehovah's Witnesses
by stuckinarut2 inok, so in the interests of balance....(as it has rightly been pointed out that i am getting more bitter toward the org), can we think of any positive or nice things about jehovah's witnesses?.
just throwing this topic out there....... .
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Personally, I liked the chicken sandwiches, the danishes, and the pudding....didn't care much for the hoagies or the fruit bags...the Shasta cola which morphed to Sunnyside or Cragmont..never measured up to the real "soda" The Circuit Assemblies used to have real breakfast made by real people...that was nice too. Other than that.....can't think of much. Have always been in wierd congregations filled with self-important climbers and socially inept people too worried about what others thought.